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* [[BlenderNotes]] for embedding license-notes and similar in a .blend file
 
* [[BlenderNotes]] for embedding license-notes and similar in a .blend file
 
* [[FreeArtSearchDiscussions]]
 
* [[FreeArtSearchDiscussions]]
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== discussion 19.10.2007 ==
 
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* complete chatlog [[chatlog_fas_19.10.2007]]
 
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* freeartsearch code "gpl3 or later" ?
 
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* ghoulsblade task : svn list , image search and  thumbnail generation 
 
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* cloud (searchcloud ? tagcloud ?)
 
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=== db layout ===
 
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db layout :
 
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* art items
 
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** id
 
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** filename (not neccessarily unique)
 
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** md5
 
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** download url for the full version (might be http or svn )
 
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** nickname : suspected author / svn username is just a hint, usecase : only lead artist has commit access
 
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** license : suspected license (we need a big fat disclaimer about that part)
 
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** desc : a few other infos like
 
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** last update time
 
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* tag search :
 
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** tagnames (id,name)
 
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** tag assignments (tagid,artid)
 
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* assign projects to art items, can be multiple , e.g. just an informative list like "used in x,y,z" , hint from download url
 
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* usersystem
 
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* artists
 
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(note to self : link to ugd thread is dead, i should dig that one out of the dump)
 
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* association svn-username with nick : like in ohloh it should be possible to use different commit names that all refer to one person
 
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* usecase :  only lead artist has commit access : some of the artfiles are in fact made by him, but others are not and he just committed them
 
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* loose link between art, project, commiter and artist/author, ie the project link could be used to guess the license of a file
 
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=== ideas for later ===
 
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* later : art request, concept sketches and notes, roles,subtasks : spec(polycount...),concept,model,unwrap,texture,anim...
 
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* many beginning game artists struggle with lack of direction
 
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* good : as many directions as possible, spiced with the "about" word like "about 1000 polys"
 
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* many specs are good, in  the sense of  "guidelines" , not as "limitations", they are not binding, and give a good starting point
 
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* artrequest tagging, e.g. hill-ogre for project xrpg would have the tags "monster","humanoid","fantasy"
 
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* or like model/prop, model/character, model/creature, model/vehicle, model/1stpersonweapon
 
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* real world objects, don't require much concept art, rather reference photos or blueprints
 
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<tmass> if such uber task list existed, i could probably lure some concepts artists there
 
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<tmass> who spend time on training/personal projects
 
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<tmass> and wouldn't mind doing something required by others
 
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<tmass> many people are afraid of obligations connected with participation in projects
 
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<tmass> but one-time well defined tasks are different deal
 
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<tmass> people may occasionally have free time or creative mood
 
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<tmass> and check out such task list
 
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<tmass> it would also provide help in building artist's portfolios
 
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* rss support, watchlist/subscribe : email notifications on add ...
 
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* encourage free licenses for art request
 
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** options for "accepted" or "desired" licenses when making the request
 
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* gently encourage it without forcing it : also per-project can-we-use-this requests
 
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* some artists will want to grant permission to use "per project"
 
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** if they get to work with a few os project they might become more open-minded
 
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* not permitting to use the animated model of a game's main character in other projects is understandable
 
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* make it easy for people to ask the artist like "hey, cool thing, can we use it for our project as well ?"
 
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* user ratings for art  (registered and anonymous seperately displayed) e.g. with 1-5 stars or so like ohloh
 
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** hmm many people searching might not register
 
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* cudo system from ohloh ?  (social networking idea)
 
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* some sort of commit monitoring would be cool, to see what's recently submitted
 
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** rss,  list of newest additions... and watchlist config stuff when registered (mail on new)
 
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=== first steps for core ===
 
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*  indexing svns (like openarena) , generating previews, and making a search for filename would be the first steps i think
 
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* next would be tagging
 
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* and  indexing freegamearts and virtual worlds wiki
 
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* (maybe later  worldforge and a few of the texture-repositories from my linklist, but those two above should be enough for getting started)
 
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== discussion 20.10.2007 ==
 
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=== Developers ===
 
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*hagish - core
 
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*lechuck - layout
 
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*ghoulsblade - spiders
 
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=== Search results ===
 
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* Images
 
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* Models
 
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* Sound
 
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==== Recognition by suffix ====
 
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*User adding of content links
 
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*No hosting, but thumbnails
 
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=== Previews/Thumbnails ===
 
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*ImageMagick for images
 
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*Flash for sounds
 
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*Blender?
 
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=== Database Layout ===
 
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==== General Artwork ====
 
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* id
 
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* titel/name
 
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* artist/originator
 
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* date/time
 
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* fileformat
 
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* license
 
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* MD5
 
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* URL
 
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* thumbnail
 
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==== Tags ====
 
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* tag name
 
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* tag assignements
 
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==== Fileformat ====
 
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* format
 
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* picture sice (x, y)
 
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* filesize
 
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* datum
 
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* versions
 
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=== License ===
 
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*Pregiven licenses, and the option to add others.
 

Revision as of 16:48, 21 October 2007

about

the main aim is to bring artists and developers closer together and encourage contact and dialog

  • a good search for existing free art
    • focused on searching/linking rather than hosting
      • index stuff from existing content repositories, project svn/cvs repositories and forums
    • possible to manually add single/multiple links to media data
    • preview images / thumbnails of textures,models,etc
    • tagging
    • licensing infos
    • technical infos (texture resolution, mesh poly count, mesh anims...)
    • contact info to reach the authors... (e.g. username + link to project forums or similar if no public email)
  • a database for projects and people
    • list/search artists and interests (concept drawing, model, anim, texture, 2d-art, texture, sound, music..)
    • list/search developers and interests (programming languages, experience with frameworks,)
    • list/search for projects using free art
    • cross referencing / associations
      • which people are involved in which project
      • assets used in multiple projects (textures, models, sound, music,...)

organization

  • people possibly interested in participating :
    • LeChuck from unixgamedev.org
    • ghoulsblade
    • hagish (if we use phpcake?)
    • more to come hopefully =)

database design

graphviz: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7275

at the moment this is just a sketch not a design 

digraph G {

artitem [shape="box"];
repository [shape="box"];
svnuser [shape="box"];
tag [shape="box"];
artist [shape="box"];
license [shape="box"];

artitem -> artist [label="0-1"];
artitem -> repository [label="1"];
artitem -> svnuser [label="0-1"];
artitem -> tag [label="*"];

repository -> license [label="*"];
repository -> svnuser [label="*"];

svnuser -> repository [label="1"];
svnuser -> artitem [label="*"];

tag -> artitem [label="*"];

artist -> artitem [label="*"];

license -> repository [label="*"];

}

technology ideas worth investigating

  • we'll probably use http://www.cakephp.org/ rapid development webframework similar to ruby-on-rails
  • svn list : search for (textures, models, audio, ...) in opensource project repositories svn/cvs
  • blender batch mode / importers : automatically generate mesh previews

existing websites to consider

free content repositories

projects and forum threads with free art

notes

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