FreeArtSearchDiscussions

discussion 19.10.2007

• complete chatlog chatlog_fas_19.10.2007
• freeartsearch code "gpl3 or later" ?
• ghoulsblade task : svn list , image search and thumbnail generation
• cloud (searchcloud ? tagcloud ?)

db layout

db layout :

• art items
  • id
  • filename (not neccessarily unique)
  • md5
  • download url for the full version (might be http or svn )
  • nickname : suspected author / svn username is just a hint, usecase : only lead artist has commit access
  • license : suspected license (we need a big fat disclaimer about that part)
  • desc : a few other infos like
  • last update time

• tag search :
  • tagnames (id,name)
  • tag assignments (tagid,artid)

• assign projects to art items, can be multiple , e.g. just an informative list like "used in x,y,z" , hint from download url

• usersystem
• artists

(note to self : link to ugd thread is dead, i should dig that one out of the dump)

• association svn-username with nick : like in ohloh it should be possible to use different commit names that all refer to one person

• usecase : only lead artist has commit access : some of the artfiles are in fact made by him, but others are not and he just committed them

• loose link between art, project, commiter and artist/author, ie the project link could be used to guess the license of a file

ideas for later

• later : art request, concept sketches and notes, roles,subtasks : spec(polycount...),concept,model,unwrap,texture,anim...
• many beginning game artists struggle with lack of direction
• good : as many directions as possible, spiced with the "about" word like "about 1000 polys"
• many specs are good, in the sense of "guidelines" , not as "limitations", they are not binding, and give a good starting point
• artrequest tagging, e.g. hill-ogre for project xrpg would have the tags "monster","humanoid","fantasy"
• or like model/prop, model/character, model/creature, model/vehicle, model/1stpersonweapon
• real world objects, don't require much concept art, rather reference photos or blueprints

<tmass> if such uber task list existed, i could probably lure some concepts artists there <tmass> who spend time on training/personal projects <tmass> and wouldn't mind doing something required by others <tmass> many people are afraid of obligations connected with participation in projects <tmass> but one-time well defined tasks are different deal <tmass> people may occasionally have free time or creative mood <tmass> and check out such task list <tmass> it would also provide help in building artist's portfolios

• rss support, watchlist/subscribe : email notifications on add ...

• encourage free licenses for art request
  • options for "accepted" or "desired" licenses when making the request
• gently encourage it without forcing it : also per-project can-we-use-this requests
• some artists will want to grant permission to use "per project"
  • if they get to work with a few os project they might become more open-minded
• not permitting to use the animated model of a game's main character in other projects is understandable
• make it easy for people to ask the artist like "hey, cool thing, can we use it for our project as well ?"

• user ratings for art (registered and anonymous seperately displayed) e.g. with 1-5 stars or so like ohloh
  • hmm many people searching might not register
• cudo system from ohloh ? (social networking idea)

• some sort of commit monitoring would be cool, to see what's recently submitted
  • rss, list of newest additions... and watchlist config stuff when registered (mail on new)

first steps for core

• indexing svns (like openarena) , generating previews, and making a search for filename would be the first steps i think
• next would be tagging
• and indexing freegamearts and virtual worlds wiki
• (maybe later worldforge and a few of the texture-repositories from my linklist, but those two above should be enough for getting started)

discussion 20.10.2007

Search results

• Images
• Models
• Sound

Recognition by suffix

• User adding of content links
• No hosting, but thumbnails

Previews/Thumbnails

• ImageMagick for images
• Flash for sounds
• Blender?

Database Layout

General Artwork

• id
• titel/name
• artist/originator
• date/time
• fileformat
• license
• MD5
• URL
• thumbnail

Tags

• tag name
• tag assignements

Fileformat

• format
• picture sice (x, y)
• filesize
• datum
• versions
• ( new additions as required)

License

• Pregiven licenses, and the option to add others.